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    Hallo!<br>
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    Wie gesagt: Ich bin begeistert, wenn wir Freifunk weiter ausbreiten.
    Aber schafft unser Backbone das, 1000 Clientsw gleichzeitig mit
    Spotify und Co zu versorgen? <br>
    <p>Als wir bei der KVB waren, haben wir gesagt: Können wir nicht
      leisten. Obwohl wir da stationär gut angebunden worden wären und
      "nur" einen Bahnsteig bestrahlen müssten. Jetzt wollen wir mal
      eben einen riesen Hügel mit in der Regel mehreren Hundert
      Studenten ausleuchten? <br>
    </p>
    <p>Ich nenne das mal "ambitioniert". Zudem behaupte ich, das das für
      Freifunk die perfekte Negativwerbung werden wird...  <br>
    </p>
    <p>"Oh, schau mal.. ein offenes Netz"<br>
      "Ja, habe ich auch gesehen, funktioniert aber nicht. Kann mich
      verbinden, aber nichts runterladen. Kannste vergessen..."</p>
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    <p>Sollte ich da komplett falsch liegen: Sorry!<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Dirk</p>
    <p>P.S.:</p>
    <p>Wer kann sich jetzt mal mit mir eine Liste erstellen, welche
      Hardware wir für Lindweiler brauchen, damit es fluppt? Ich muß
      langsam mal die Fördergelder beantragen... <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.07.2016 um 22:22 schrieb Julian
      Zielke:<br>
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    <blockquote
      cite="mid:38B1CE23-147F-4533-94CB-52BEFC111D52@gmail.com"
      type="cite">Zumindest von Seiten des Biergarten Betreibers sehe
      ich schwarz weil der Hügel hinter einer Baumkette steht und da
      kein vernünftiges funken möglich ist. Zumal bei gutem Wetter
      sicher keine Bandbreite mehr für die Gäste dort in unmittelbarer
      Nähe übrig bleibt. Jeder lässt dann auf dem Hügel gepflegt seinen
      spotify Stream laufen und das wars. <br>
      <br>
      Gruß Julian <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">Am 4. Juli 2016 22:18:39 MESZ, schrieb
        Ramon Waldherr <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rampone@gmail.com"><rampone@gmail.com></a>:
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          <div dir="ltr">Re from se Urlaub,
            <div><br>
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            <div>afaik waren die Leutz damals vom <a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://674.fm">674.fm</a>
              sender bereit auch was gerichtetes aufzubauen, wie es aber
              nunmal so ist, haben wir damals nicht die Zeit gefunden
              dort vorbeizuschauen. Das müsste aber noch in der
              Mailinglistenhistory irgendwo sein.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Ich finde jetzt auch nicht, dass das ein hotspot.koeln
              fall ist. Wenn Freifunker sich drum kümmern wollen um das
              Netz dort, dann ist das vollkommen in Ordnung. Scheint ja
              auch eher um den "Abhäng/Grill/Saufhügel zu gehen, als den
              Biergarten an sich. Dass der dann Freifunk hat ist dann
              eher eine Art Kollateralschaden ;) hehehehe</div>
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            <div>Gruss, meine Bahn ist im Zielbahnhof,</div>
            <div><br>
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            <div>Rampone</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">2016-06-19 23:15 GMT+02:00 Julian
              Zielke <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:jzitms@gmail.com" target="_blank">jzitms@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                  bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Wie gesagt, ich
                  finde die Idee gut, und Hotspot Koeln ist bis jetzt
                  dort noch nicht vorhanden. Ein Grund mehr, dort
                  entsprechende Bemühungen walten zu lassen.<br>
                  Ich bin gerne bereit, bei der Installation und der
                  Kommunikation zu helfen. Nur was die Kontakte und die
                  Prozesse dabei betrifft, so will ich iieber erst mal
                  von den Leuten lernen, welche damit schon zu tun
                  hatten. Sowas sollte, wie einige schon richtig bemerkt
                  haben, mit Hand und Fuß angegangen werden.<br>
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                  Gruß,<br>
                  J<br>
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                      <div>Am 19.06.16 um 22:39 schrieb Andre Schneider:<br>
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                      <div class="h5">Also rund um den Weiher sind viel
                        mehr Leute als im Biergarten. Biergarten wurde
                        nur angesprochen wegen der Anbindung. Die
                        meisten picknicken oder Grillen auf dem Rasen.
                        Ab und zu gibts auch organisierte Feste. Bäume
                        sind meist nur an den Rändern des Parks. Also
                        kein Hindernis. Freie Sicht bis zum Hügel.
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                          Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 schrieb Manuel S. :<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Nabend,
                              <div>wenn man sich einmischen darf:</div>
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                              <div>Persönlich finde ich solche Locations
                                gut. Aus einem einfachem Grund: sie
                                machen Freifunk bekannter. Auch liest
                                sich das für mich jetzt nicht so, als
                                hätte der Biergarten oder ein anderer
                                "Kommerzieller" aktiv gefragt (siehe
                                Tim's Kommentar das die schon was
                                haben). Man sollte aber wohl mit
                                wenigstens ein paar Hundert Euro für so
                                eine Location rechnen. Gibt es da
                                Spender? Habt ihr gute Orte für Antennen
                                entdeckt die weit aufs Gelände sehen
                                (möglichst viel in Sichtverbindung) z.B:
                                alte Antennenmaste für TV? Die Bäume
                                sehen nicht gut aus und sind meiner
                                Erinnerung nach gar nicht mal so klein.</div>
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                              <div>Cheers,</div>
                              <div>Arwed</div>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">Am 19. Juni
                                    2016 um 21:22 schrieb Dirk
                                    Bachhausen <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                        text="#000000"> Im Sommer halten
                                        sich gerne mal mehrere Tausend
                                        Menschen am Aachener Weiher
                                        auf...<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Ich würde llieber erst mal die
                                        Bürgerzentren in Köln weiter
                                        verfreifunken, bevor ich einen
                                        kommerziellen Biergarten damit
                                        ausstatte..<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Greets<br>
                                        Dirk<br>
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value="+492217122714" target="_blank">0221/7122714</a></span> </span> <span
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2px;border-color:#505050">Korber Weg 17, 50767 Köln</span> </span> <span
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                                            <div>Am 19.06.2016 um 21:20
                                              schrieb Andre Schneider:<br>
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                                                Am Sonntag, 19. Juni
                                                2016 schrieb Dirk
                                                Bachhausen :<br>
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                                                    Sorry, aber ist der
                                                    Aachener Weiher
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                                                    <div>Am 19.06.2016
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                                                      <pre>On Sunday 19 June 2016 14:44:14 Andre Schneider wrote:
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                                                        <pre>Fläche wäre vorerst der Weiher bis zum Hügel.
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                                                      <pre>Wenn dieser Bereich vollständig abgedeckt wird, fangen wir uns an guten 
Sommertagen sicher ganz leicht mehrere hundert Clients dort ein. Da sollte 
sich auf jeden Fall mal jemand mit befassen der weiß was zu tun ist :-)

so long
der Tim
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,



Julian Zielke 

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