[Freifunk-Bonn] Fwd: Ping von Freifunk-KBU

[Jan Lühr]

Hallo,

z.K.

Alles Gute
Jan

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> Von: CryptoPartyFrankfurt <pop216767-cryptoparty at ffmfowl.de>
> Datum: 31. März 2013 16:46:27 MESZ
> An: Jan Lühr <jluehr at gmx.net>
> Kopie: cryptoparty at ffmfowl.de, Freifunk KBU <info at kbu.freifunk.net>, MeI <quizz at vfemail.net>, Matthias Strubel <matthias.strubel at aod-rpg.de>, sec at buenavibra.de
> Betreff: Re: Ping von Freifunk-KBU
> Antwort an: cryptoparty at ffmfowl.de
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> Very cool
> 
> Regarding the 'Bonn-Frankfurt CryptoParty Express Shuttle', contact
> Mel (quizz at vfemail.net) to book your seats ;)
> 
> Mel, BTW, might also be able to meet you in Bonn this week for a
> face2face chat before #cpf5
> 
> Regarding 'a critical mass for starting a Freifunk Network'... I know
> that there will be people at #cpf5 who are interested but I don't know
> if we will constitute a 'critical mass'... S (sec at buenavibra.de) and I
> will continue to promote your presentation... but like all
> CryptoParties, it really is a matter of seeing who comes on the night.
> 
> Regarding bootstrapping a Freifunk network not being Voodoo, Plug'n
> Play, scalability and so on... understood... the key here is to
> generate interest among both those who 'would like to' and 'those who
> have the skills to' develop a network.
> 
> Here, I suggest presenting an overview of what 'Freifunk' is and how
> it works (at a very simple level to excite 'those who would like to').
> Then a practical demonstration/'hands-on' workshop to 'make it real'
> (playing around with the firmware... if you want... for those like me
> who need to see it to understand it)... at this point you will have a
> feel for who is interested and if they are capable and serious about
> developing a proper, scalable network in Frankfurt... then, you can
> talk-tech with those you think 'have the skills' do develop for real.
> 
> I guess I imagine your presentation to be the first step in developing
> 'FreiFunk-FFM'.
> 
> I think you will be able to inspire us with the success of KBU and
> point us in the right direction to develop our own.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> K
> 
> On 03/29/2013 11:21 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> thx for your reply:
>> 
>> Am 29.03.2013 um 20:04 schrieb CryptoPartyFrankfurt:
>> 
>>> 
>>> there are two seats available in a car leaving Bonn +/- 14:00
>>> which - if you wanted to join the ride - would give us a few
>>> hours to hangout and discuss details before the party starts
>> 
>> Sounds cool. I can provided details (who's coming - apart from me)
>> on April 2nd.
>> 
>>> 
>>> LOL... until the internet is free :P But the 'Bonn Crypto
>>> shuttle' will leave before that (before midnight)
>>> 
>>>> -> Topic? Eg * Technical details of Freifunk networks * 
>>>> Bootstrapping a Freifunk Community * What is Freifunk-KBU? -
>>>> How to participate? (This won't be that interesting imho, since
>>>> hardly anyone is living in Köln / Bonn, is anyone?)
>>> 
>>> Well... that's up to you... but the question we have and hope you
>>> can help answer is:
>>> 
>>> 'How do we build a FreiFunk network in Frankfurt?'
>> 
>> Sounds interesting. I guess we can come up with strategies for
>> that. However, participants should know that in advance. Do you
>> think a critical mass for starting a Freifunk Network will be
>> present?
>> 
>>> 
>>>> -> Audience: * What do they know in advance (IP-addressing,
>>>> routing protocols, etc.)?#
>>> 
>>> Mixed... assume no prior knowledge and expect some dumb
>>> questions during your presentation/workshop... and relax in the
>>> comfort of being among friends with your technical skills ;)
>>> 
>>>> * What do they expect?
>>> 
>>> LOL... nothing less than saving the universe... but one step at a
>>> time...
>>> 
>>> Seriously, CPF wants - with your help - to inspire people to
>>> develop a freifunk community in Frankfurt...
>> 
>> This won't be a problem in general - however, bootstrapping a
>> Freifunk network requires insight knowledge.
>> 
>> 
>>>> 4. What should the workshop be about?
>>> 
>>> Outline the concept, then build the device (practical
>>> application), lessons on how to build a (Frankfurt) community
>>> (like you did with KBU).
>>> 
>>> How many people will get there?
>>> 
>>> Fuck! I hate that question... we have a no-RSVP policy so we
>>> never know... anywhere between 5 and 50... I do know that S will
>>> be there specifically for FreiFunk and will probably bring some
>>> interested people and I know that M from PBx is interested in
>>> meeting you, so you will have an audience... (including me if no
>>> one wants to do the ubuntu workshop)
>>> 
>>> We can provide some devices (TP-Link 1043ND), but need to know
>>> the number (I don't like to carry 15  if 3 are sufficient ...).
>>> 
>>> Good question... I got a wr741nd yesterday from conrad and
>>> flashed it last night (works great BTW).
>>> 
>>> Let's try this... I'll promote your workshop and encourage people
>>> to acquire and bring their own hardware (WR740N-v4, WR741ND und
>>> WR1043ND, right?) and you could bring 4 or 5 as backups...
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>> 
>> Feasible - but difficult. A simple "flash and mesh" / "Plug'n Play'
>> workshop where everybody get's in touch with our firmware might not
>> be "good enough", since expanding our network to Frankfurt  is
>> stupid from a technical point of view (no one will do roaming from
>> Frankfurt to Bonn / Köln - scaling such a network will be
>> painful). I think it'd cool, if some folks that are interested in
>> and (in general) capable of  running a Freifunk network will be
>> present (this ain't voodo ;-) ). Of course, playing around with our
>> firmware is easy and enjoying but won't help in the long run
>> (imho).
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help, See you on April 7th, yanosz
>> 
>> 
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